So it may sound that I'm a bleeding heart union sympathizer. HOWEVER, i do question the tactics and strategy of the BCTF union exec. I mean, its sad...each side says they're trying to do what's best for the students, but it's the students who are suffering the most from this dispute. And by walking off the job, and breaking the LAW (and yes, even if its a law you don't agree with), it certainly does set a good example to students. It also doesn't help when you tell the media that students will NOT be adversely affected if they missed up to three months of school. Ummm...REALLY? So why am i paying taxes for 10 months of schooling when the TEACHER's UNION says that 7 months is all that is really needed to get an education. It doesn't make sense to me...and quite surely to a lot of the public.
I'm not a cynic, but i'm sure there are people out there who will be suspicious of the Union's motives. Unions are big business after all. The BCTF collects millions of dollars of dues from their members, to pay for their union executives and their modern and sleek Vancouver headquarters. How to pay for all that? Smaller class sizes = more classes = more teachers = more union dues. OK...maybe i'm stretching it there... but again, its all about public perception, and I think the Union exec has to be careful in the messages they send out...
If it was up to me, lets just go back to letting school districts negotiate their own contracts with their teachers. Education is not a one-size-fits all...it never has been, and never will be. The needs of students in Point Grey Vancouver will be quite different from the Whalley inner city school in Surrey. Let districts decide how best to allocate tax dollars depending on the student needs. Teacher salaries should be kept competitive, and at *least* in sync with inflation. The gov't brought in province-wide bargaining in the mid 90's because salaries were rising to high and the NDP was reeling from mismanaging the economy, so they thought they were doing the right thing...not knowing the long term repercussions. I don't mind if teachers get paid much more than they are now. And yes, those who know me know i am somewhat biased ;-), but there is a catch. And this is where some teachers might have my head -- ultimately a teacher's pay should be directly linked to a student's performance. They need to be accountable. If the student's perform well, the teacher should get paid well. Of course, measuring performance is the hard part. It can't be done by just standardized testing. Performance should be measured by a combination of student test results *and* feedback from students, parents, principals, and peers. This is how its done at my work, and in a lot of private sector companies...its called full-circle feedback, and i think it makes a lot of sense.
Both sides need to step back and realize that the current system is severely flawed, get back to the negotiation table and leave the students out of the dispute. But its not gonna happen that easily. I think both sides are in for a long fight. If anything, the whole thing is kind of entertaining at times... i think the funniest thing i heard today was when Gordon Campbell said that the teacher's are not setting a good example to the kids by breaking the law and going on strike. A caller into a CKNW talk show then made the comment that he's sure one to talk...considering he was caught drinking and driving!!! LOL.
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First of all, I admit that I don't understand all the underlying issues.
I sorta sympathize with what the teachers are going through, but some of us in other professions also go through similar issues.
For example, where I work, we've been in a wage freeze for a few years now and have seen increased work load due to layoffs and people migrating to better jobs. But what can we do? Nothing really. We could look for another job or just suck it up. We can't go out and disrupt the public with our issues.
So why should these unions be allowed to do so? Why does this union feel that they have to take the children and their parents hostage in their dispute with their employer. Is there no other means of communicating? I don't know.
My company has done wage increases to compete with other companies but for the most part there hasn't been any compensation. I don't know how the teacher's wages compare to the rest of Canada. How does teaching in BC compare to the rest of Canada?
There is some good out of this "protest". Traffic is much less congested. I can make it to work 10 minutes faster.
Another bonus is that we, we being people other than JCSY, just might get to see NL in hand cuffs. ;)
NOW GET BACK TO WORK!!!
My goodness. You might want to send your posting to a newspaper or something.
I also sympathize with teachers but dislike the union with a passion. I also believe that the pay structure of the teachers should be altered to reflect their productivity.
What the heck is up with JOB SECURITY? If one is doing a poor job, one should be fired.
May
RJT, if you were in NL's classroom and corporal punishment were still allowed, you'd get the strap!! ;-) Teachers in BC are the 3rd highest paid behind Alberta and Ontario. Ultimately the BC teachers will probably be happy to be on par with them -- especially since our cost of living is pretty high. Legally, the teachers CANNOT disrupt the public. But had the government not passed a law (essential services and Bill 12) that is not only morally wrong, but also breaks some international labour laws in the first place, the union wouldn't be forced to go to such dire measures. And of course, if you're not happy you can't disrupt the public...no one cares about you (or me). Education is a service the gov't must provide to the public (taxpayers). So if the teacher's don't get what they think is right, they`re gonna protest in public....and you get a shorter commute...nice eh?
May, i hear you. Although, I don't hate unions with the same passion as you, i still think they have to get with the times. They have to realize that the world is far different from the Industrial age where people worked in hazardous conditions, and 12+ hour days, and where you couldn't outsource jobs overseas. The days of a job for life are over.
I had no idea that NL was the domineering type.
Ok, Let's bring it on.
If I were to go out and disrupt the public in a way that the teachers did, then I would have been put in jail.
Is there no sympathy for the Grade 12 students? WT just told me that her co-workers son has probably lost his chance at a scholoarship just because he did not complete enough class time in math and science. But I guess its ok to screw a couple people's future to get your point across, right? If it's true that students were allowed into classes to get things and be with the non-union staff for help, then why isn't the general public told this? Why keep it such a secret? Sure the media chooses what to show the public, but I'm sure they'd also show those teachers that don't agree with the union to give a hint of insolidarity.
I sympathize for the teachers, but I also sympathize for those grade 12 students that just want to learn. I have NO sympathy for the BTF Union or any union for that matter. Well, maybe some for the BCGEU. :) And I have no thoughts on the legislation to get back to work and Bill 12.
Now NL, go vote YES and get back to work!!!! (Just teasing you)
What's your thoughts on Vince Ready's recommendations? Are they fair?
RJT, are you asking for a dentention? :)
Just for your info, it's all a game about strategy.... i voted NO! All SURVIVORS are behind me ;)
but... I do wanna get back 2 work 2morrow.
-NL
How'd you know it was me?
I was kinda hoping for the strap not detention.
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. So I'll leave it at that. The "protest" doesn't really affect me right now but it is helping create a better environment for our next generation. So I'll leave it alone for now.
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